Children of John Hardie and Isabel Cousin Hardie
Helen Hardie
[This table is based on the best information available to The Thornhill Foundation as of 31Mar03. Corrections or additions should be mailed to W. H. Hardie, P. O. Box 1988, Mobile, AL 36633 USA or e-mailed to whardie@zebra.net.]
10. Helen Hardie was born in 1802, probably at Broomie Knowe, and baptized on 5 December 1802 in Saline, Fife. She was the youngest of John and Isabel Hardie’s children to survive infancy. Helen Hardie was married on 3 July 1824 to William Strong Spence (born 4 October 1805 in Torryburn, Dunfermline, Fife; baptized 13 October 1805; died 11 April 1876 in Talladega, Alabama, and buried in Thornhill Cemetery; son of John Spence) in Saline, Fife. William Spence was a farm laborer at the time of the marriage and nearly three years younger than Helen. According to Lillian Martin writing in John Hardie of Thornhill and His Family, the marriage of Helen Hardie to William Spence was not approved by her family. As evidence she cites a contemporary letter from John Hardie:
On 4 June 1825 John Hardie, her brother who had come to the United States in 1817, wrote to their elder brother Joseph, “I am very sorry indeed to notice what you say concerning sister Helen, but as matters cannot now be mended, why hold no correspondence with her? [If I could] I would go and see her, cannot you ... ‘forget and forgive’ and should she and her husband behave themselves properly, could you not return it? It must hurt her very much to be forsaken by her Brothers, Sisters and Mother; I feel very much for her situation.”
Although the cause of the rift between Helen and her family was not known to Lillian Martin, it now seems apparent from the records of the Parish of Saline, Fife. According to those records, the first child of William Strong Spence and Helen Hardie was baptized on 6 August 1824 in Saline. Consequently, Helen Hardie must have been many months pregnant at the time of her marriage to William Spence. The name of the child is not given in the records, so it may not have survived infancy.
Helen and William Spence evidently move to Alloa, Clackmannan for their next four children were baptized there. William’s sister Agnes lived in nearby Alva. William and Helen may also have lived in Ireland because their child David is said to have been born there in 1838. William’s sister Agnes may also have lived in Ireland, as well. In 1848 Helen and William Spence emigrated to the United States with their family and Helen’s niece, Isabella Hardie.
William Spence and Helen Hardie Spence came to Talladega, Alabama, in 1848. Helen’s brother John died in August 1848, so it is likely that Helen and her family arrived after John’s death. William Spence practiced veterinary medicine and maintained a farm in Munford, Alabama. Helen Hardie Spence died on 11 June 1886, and she is buried in the cemetery at Thornhill together with William Spence. Children of Helen Hardie Spence and William Spence.
10.1 Infant Spence was baptized in Saline, Fife, 6 August 1824 and is believed to have died in infancy.
10.2 Isabelle Spence was baptized on 23 July 1826 in Alloa, Clackmannan.
10.3 William P. Spence was born on 17 March 1829 and baptized on 29 March 1829 in Alloa, Clackmannan. William Spence was married on 17 April 1850 to Parthenia Dink Elrod (born 17 December 1832 in Rutherford County, Tennessee; died 15 January 1902; daughter of George Elrod and Thursa Keyes) in Talladega County, Alabama. William Spence served as a Captain in Company H of the 25th Alabama Infantry during the Civil War. In December 1869 William and Parthenia Elrod Spence came to Anderson County, Texas and then purchased land in Hopkins County, Texas. William Spence died 5 February 1881. Children of William Spence and Parthenia Elrod.
10.3.1. William Pleasant Spence born 14 July 1851 in Alabama. He was married on 11 October 1874 to Sallie R. Whitworth (born 18 March 1857; died 26 February 1881) in Hopkins County, Texas. William Spence was also married a second time. Children of William Spence.
10.3.1.1. Maude Spence
10.3.1.2. Walter Spence
10.3.1.3. Johnnie Spence
10.3.1.4. Willie Spence
William Spence died 15 November 1898 in Texas.
10.3.2. Joseph Hardie Spence was born on 18 August 1852 in Talladega County, Alabama. Joseph Spence was married on 25 January 1875 to Alice Montgomery (born in 1859 in Tennessee). Joseph Spence died March 1904. Children.
10.3.2.1. John Spence
10.3.2.2. Annie Spence
10.3.2.3. Ray Spence
10.3.2.4. James Spence
10.3.3. Mary Elizabeth Spence (Marybeth) was born on 28 February 1854 in Talladega County, Alabama. Mary Elizabeth Spence was married on 10 March 1872 to John Gillman Payne (born 14 May 1850 in Alabama; died 8 September) in Hopkins County, Texas. Mary Elizabeth Spence died 5 January 1925. Children of Mary Elizabeth Spence and John Payne.
10.3.3.1 Allie Frederick Payne (male) was born on 19 December 1872 in Pine Forest, Hopkins County, Texas. He was married to Lola Melson (born 1 September 1879; died 11 May 1960)
10.3.3.2 Jimmie Payne (Gem, a female) was born circa 1874 in Hopkins County, Texas, and died in infancy.
10.3.4. J. W. Spence was born on 17 August 1855 in Talladega County, Alabama and died as an infant.
10.3.5. Helen Spence was born on 9 February 1857 in Talladega County, Alabama. Helen Spence was married on 29 October 1879 to George Knott. She died 4 July 1888. Child of Helen Spence and George Knott.
10.3.5.1. Fannie Knott was born 30 October 1880.
10.3.5.2. Kate Lou Knott was born 4 January 1882.
10.3.5.3. Parthenia Helen Kott was born 16 July 1884.
10.3.5.4. William Webster Knott was born 22 March 1885.
10.3.6. Margaret Pamelia (“Maggie”) Spence born on 17 December 1859 in Talladega. County, Alabama. Maggie Spence was married on 23 March 1881 to John Holland Whitten (son of Joel Whitten and Malvina Roebuck). Maggie Spence died 29 September 1904. Children of Maggie Spence and John Whitten.
10.3.6.1. Joel Bruce Whitten was born 9 June 1882 in Sulphur Springs, Texas. He married Annie Virginia Cook. Joel Whitten died in August 1977.
10.3.6.2. Fay Whitten was born in April 1893. She married John Leftwich.
10.3.6.2.1. Holland Leftwich
10.3.6.3. Holley Whitten was born in May 1897 and died in 1930.
10.3.6.4. Jabez Monroe Whitten was born 8 January 1886. He was married on 29 November 1919 to Iva Dell. He died 19 June 1987 in Saltillo, Hopkins County, Texas.
10.3.6.5. William Henry Whitten was born on 20 October 1883.
10.3.6.6. Ruhama Whitten (female) was born on 24 January 1888. She was married to Joe Mack Whitmer. She died 31 July 1959 in Saltillo, Texas.
10.3.6.7. Mary M. Whitten was born on 18 December 1889. She died 5 August 1969.
10.3.6.8. Pearl Whitten was born on 15 July 1895. She died 31 July 1915.
10.3.7. Robert J. Spence was born on 19 May 1862 in Talladega County, Alabama..He was married on 6 January 1881 to Mary Jane Harris. Robert Spence died in 1904. Children of Robert Spence and Mary Harris.
10.3.7.1. Bishop Marvin Spence
10.3.7.2. Mattie Spence
10.3.7.3. Temple Spence
10.3.8. Jabez Curry Spence was born on 14 February 1865 in Texas. Jabez Spence was married first 14 July 1887 to Mary Faynetta Whitten (born 31 December 1871; died 30 March 1893). Child of Jabez Spence and Mary Whitten.
10.3.8.1. Joel Howard Spence was born 3 February 1889. He was married on 26 June 1909 to Maude May Frizzell (born 11 July 1891; died 15 March 1914). He was married second on 4 September 1915 to Ora Ellen Lawhorn (born 17 October 1891; died Saltillo, Texas).
.Jabez Spence (10.3.8) was married second on 12 December 1918 to Rosa Lee Young (born 6 September 1884; died 25 December 1953 in Ennis, Texas) in Schaal, Howard County, Arkansas. Jabez Spence died 11 June 1943. Children of Jabez Spence and Rosa Young.
10.3.8.2. Jabez Curry Spence, Jr. was born 5 October 1920 in Jackson County, Arkansas. He was married on 19 October 1940 to Christine Merle Womack (born 14 June 1923). Jabe Spence died 28 September 1976 in Houston, Texas.
10.3.8.3. William David Spence was born 1 January 1922 in Mexia, Limestone County, Texas. He was married on 30 October 1941 to RosaLee Shue (born 9 March 1923) in Navarro County, Texas. William Spence died 5 August 1998 in Ennis, Ellis County, Texas. Children of William Spence and RosaLee Shue.
10.3.8.3.1. Kelton David Spence. Kelton David Spence married Linda Ruth Lott. Children of Kelton Spence and Linda Lott.
10.3.8.3.1.1. Kelton Chad Spence. Kelton Chad Spence was married to Debbie Chapman.
10.3.8.3.1.2. Kiley Brad Spence. Kiley Spence was married on 15 June 2002 to Shelley Lyles.
10.3.8.3.2. Joyce Elaine Spence. Joyce Elaine Spence was married to Roger Wayne Hartman (son of Ralph W. Hartman and Frances Della Tysver). Children of Joyce Spence and Roger Hartman.
10.3.8.3.2.1. Lori Michelle Hartman. Lori Hartman was married to Frank A. Hegar, Jr. Children of Lori Hartman and Frank Hegar, Jr.
10.3.8.3.2.1.1. Amber Michelle Hegar
10.3.8.3.2.1.2. Frank Wesley Hegar
10.3.8.3.2.1.3. Brittany Rochelle Hegar
10.3.8.3.2.2. David Kirk Hartman
10.3.8.4. Mary Kathleen Spence was born 18 September 1924. She was married on 14 October 1944 to Odie Franklin Shue (born 16 January 1909 in Alma, Ellis County, Texas). Odie Franklin Shue was the brother of RosaLee Shue. Mary Kathleen Spence died 4 March 1993 in Navarro County, Texas.
10.3.9. Anne Elizabeth (“Ann Eliza”) Spence was born 15 April 1867 in Texas. She was married on 31 March 1887 to James C. Nabours (born December 1850) in Sulphur Springs, Hopkins County, Texas. They purchased land in Sulpur Springs in 1915. Children.
10.3.9.1. Kate Parthenia Nabours (Katie) was born in 1888 and died in 1982. She never married.
10.3.9.2. James William Nabours was born in 1892 and died in 1978. Children
10.3.9.2.1. Roy Nabours
10.3.9.2.2. Lillian Nabours
10.3.9.2.3. James Calvin Nabours
10.3.9.2.4. Jimmy Ruth Nabours
10.3.9.2.5. Jack Nabours
10.3.9.3. Mary Ethel Nabours (Ed) was born 6 November 1896 and died 23 January 1990. She married Conner “Cotton” J. Wright. Children.
10.3.9.3.1. Jim Sid Wright was born in 1921.
10.3.9.3.2. J.D. “Bubba” Wright was born in 1923.
10.3.9.4. Fannie Sue Nabours (Sue) was born in 1898. She married Hubert H. Lewis. Children.
10.3.9.4.1. Frances Lewis was born June 1923 and died November 1983.
10.3.9.4.2.Gene Lewis was born 1930.
10.3.9.5. John Spence Nabours was born in 1900 and died in 1968. He lived in Dallas and Wichita Falls, Texas.
10.3.9.6. Carrie Bess Nabours was born in 1902 in Dallas, Texas. Bess was married first to Jones, and they were divorced. She was married second to Carl C. Lewis, and they lived in Wichita Falls, Texas. There were no children. She died 10 May 1931.
10.3.9.7. Zuma Elizabeth Nabours (Beth) was born. Beth was married to John Francis Kent. Frank Kent was born in Minden, Louisiana. Beth Nabours Kent died 28 June 1925. Children of Beth and Frank Kent.
10.3.9.7.1. Joanne Kent was born 25 January 1929 in Dallas, Texas. She was married first in Dallas, Texas, to Joseph Walter Foraker II on 6 November 1942. He was in “A” Company of the 300th Battalion of the Corps of Engineers. He was killed in action on 19 June 1944 following the invasion of Normandy in June 1944, and he is buried in France. Joanne Kent was married second to Charles Edward Davis on 13 October 1945. He had served in the Weather Service of the U.S. Army Air Corps in India during World War II. Joanne Kent Davis died 9 October 1990. Children of Joanne and Charles Davis.
10.3.9.7.1.1. Joseph Walter Davis was born in 1943 in Wichita Falls, Texas.
10.3.9.7.1.2. Georganne Davis was born in 1945 in Wichita Falls, Texas.
10.3.9.7.1.3. Michael Edward Davis was born in 1950 in Wichita Falls, Texas.
10.3.9.7.1.4. Nancy Elizabeth Davis was born in 1956 in Wichita Falls, Texas.
10.3.10. Samuel Houston Spence was born on 14 January 1870 in Texas. He was married on 29 November 1890 to Carrie Hildreth. They lived in New Orleans. Samuel Spence died 10 November 1918.
10.3.11. Lulae J. Spence was born on 15 August 1873 in Texas. She was married on 6 November 1890 to J. Mike Wilkins in Hunt County, Texas. They lived in Mt. Vernon, Texas.
10.4. Joseph Spence was baptized 22 May 1831 in Alloa, Clackmannan.
10.5. Robert H. Spence was born on 30 June 1834 and baptized on 3 July 1834 in Alloa, Clackmannan. He served as a Lieutenant in the 25th Alabama Infantry, and he was wounded at Murfreesboro, Tennessee. Robert Spence was married to Emma Morriss (born 14 May 1850; died 10 April 1915). Robert Spence died 10 November 1896, and he is buried at Thornhill Cemetery. Children of Robert Spence and Emma Morriss.
10.5.1 Joseph H. Spence was born in 1871 and died in 1928.
10.5.2 Willie Spence was born 9 January 1875 and died 19 November 1882.
10.5.3 Jimmie Spence was born 25 June 1880 and died 121 February 1882.
10.5.4. Ellen Elizabeth Spence was born in 1886. She was married in 1905 to Edward Zeigler “Ready” (1878-1939). She died in 1970. Children.
10.5.4.1.
10.6. James Spence was born in 1836.
10.7. David Spence was born in Ireland in 1838.
Isabella Hardie and John McArthur
According to John Hardie of Thornhill and His Family by Lillian Galt Martin, John Hardie’s sister Helen Hardie Spence and her husband William Spence came to the United States in 1848 with their children, and they also brought a young woman named Isabella Hardie who has been identified as Helen’s “niece.” The family bible records Isabella’s birth date as 4 January 1834. Otherwise, the origins of Isabella are something of a mystery.
Although she may have been referred to as a niece, Isabella almost certainly was not the child of any of Helen Hardie Spence’s brothers.
In her book, Lillian Martin identifies Isabella’s father as Helen’s brother David. David Hardie (1798-1856) and his wife Christian Black, while living at Markle Mains farm in East Lothian, did have a daughter named Isabella who was born in 1838 and baptized at Prestonkirk on 19 June 1838. However, according to the Parish records, David’s daughter Isabella was married on 27 September 1860 to Charles Jameson Christie at Prestonkirk. Moreover, the parish Household Entries for Markle Mains show that David’s daughter Isabella and her husband were living on the farm with Isabella’s widowed mother in 1861. Isabella and Charles Christie went on to have five children; three of them were baptized in Pestonkirk and two in Edinburgh. This, of course, would be inconsistent with Isabella’s departure for the United States in 1848.
Moreover, it is not likely that Isabella was the child of any of Helen’s other brothers. Joseph (1787-1845), the oldest of the brothers, never married. John (1796-1848) Hardie’s daughter Mary Isabella Hardie married Taul Bradford. James (1800-1866) Hardie’s daughter Isabella was not born until 20 February 1855.
Isabella Cousen Hardie, the daughter of William (1790-?) Hardie and Catherine McFarlane (spelled “McFarland” in some sources), was born in 1835 and baptized on 5 October 1835 in Kilmadock, Perthshire. This birth date is not the same as Helen’s niece. Moreover, William Hardie and Catherine McFarlane were married on 28 July 1833 in Kilmadock, and Isabella was the second of their eight children. There is no reason why William and Catherine would send their thirteen year old daughter off to America with William’s sister Helen.
John Hardie of Thornhill’s brother James had a twin brother named Robert, and Lillian Martin’s book says: “He was a merchant in Edinburgh and he was unmarried. He died young.” Alexander (1807-?) appears to have died as an infant. This seems to exclude them as the father of Isabella.
It is possible that the term “niece” was imprecisely applied to Isabella, and she was the daughter of another relative of Helen Hardie Spence, such as one of her first cousins.
The parents of John Hardie of Thornhill were John (1760-1833) Hardie and Isabel Cousin. He had four brothers: Francis (chr. 21 June 1762), Joseph (chr. 5 August 1764), William (chr. 13 July 1766), and James (chr. 21 January 1770). All of these children were christened in Clackmannan Parish in Clackmannan. These men would have been Helen Hardie’s uncles, and one of their son’s may have been the father of Isabella.
There is no record that Francis Hardie ever married or ever had any children.
Joseph Hardie married Margaret Salton on 26 June 1795 in Haddington, East Lothian. They had only one child, an unnamed girl who was christened on 29 August 1796 in Haddington. Evidently this child died in infancy, and there is no record of any other children for Margaret and Joseph.
William Hardie was first married to Helen White on 20 November 1784, and their marriage was recorded in both Alloa and Clackmannan parishes. There is no record of any children of William Hardie and Helen White. There is no explanation what became of Helen White. William Hardie was married second on 3 June 1787 to Helen Ramsay, and their marriage is also recorded in the parishes of Alloa and Clackmannan. Again, there is no record of any children of William Hardie and Helen Ramsay. William Hardie may have died soon after his marriage to Helen Ramsay because she was married on 21 December 1788 to Alexander Inglis in a marriage recorded in Clackmannan parish.
James Hardie was married on 14 May 1786 to Mary Cockburn in a marriage recorded in Clackmannan parish; he would have been only sixteen years old. Evidently he emigrated to the United States where he died in 1808. John Hardie of Thornhill stayed in New York with James’ widow, then married to a Mr. Brackett.
All of this leaves us in something of a quandary over the identity of Isabella’s father. Parish records disclose an Isabella Hardie christened on 2 February 1834 at Falkirk in Stirling. This christening date is wholly consistent with the birth date of 4 January 1834 recorded in the family bible. The parents of this Isabella are identified as James Hardie and Mary Walker.
Mary Walker was born 27 June 1813 in Falkirk, Stirling and christened there on 22 July 1813. Her parents were James Walker and Isabelle Gray who were married in Falkirk on 25 April 1813. Thus, when Mary’s mother was married, she was already well along in her pregnancy with Mary.
The marriage of Mary Walker and James Hardie was recorded in the Parish records of Alloa, Clackmannan, and Falkirk, Stirling, on 25 April 1837. They had five additional children after Isabella: Janet, christened 12 February 1839 in Falkirk; Mary, christened 28 February 1844 in Falkirk; Archibald, christened 15 February 1846 in Gorbals, Lanarkshire; and Jane Gray, born 2 December 1847 in Gorbals.
Since Mary Walker was from Falkirk, her marriage to James Hardie was presumably recorded in Alloa because James was a member of the Alloa parish. There is no record of a James Hardie’s birth in any of the Clackmannan parishes between 1784 and 1824, so the father of Isabella must have come to Alloa after his birth. The identity of James Hardie’s parents is obscure for this reason.
James Hardie and Mary Walker were married more than three years after Isabella’s birth. Thus, at the time of her birth, Isabella would have been considered illegitimate.
At the same time that Isabella was born to Mary Walker, Helen Hardie Spence’s fifth child, Robert H. Spence was born on 30 June 1834 and baptized on 3 July 1834 in Alloa, Clackmannan, where Helen and William Spence were living. Mary Walker’s predicament may have produced some sympathy in Helen Hardie Spence, especially since her own marriage preceded her first child’s birth by only a few months. In any event, there must have been some relationship between Helen Hardie Spence and James Hardie to induce her to take Isabella into her family.
The most likely parents for Isabella’s father, James Hardie are William Hardie and Cecelia Oswald. Cecelia Oswald was born in Fife and christened on 8 March 1772 in Kinglassie, Fife. William’s family connections are not apparent. Moreover, there is no record of a marriage between Cecelia Oswald and William Hardie. Between 1797 and 1808 she and a man named William Hardie had seven children, all christened in Dysart, Fife. The second and fourth of these children were named James, indicating that the first died in infancy. The second James was christened in Dysart on 11 October 1804. It is far from certain that he is the father of Isabella Hardie, but proximity in age and location make him the most likely of all the possibilities.
Isabella Hardie and John McArthur’s Family
Isabella Hardie was married on 24 April 1861, in Mobile, Alabama, to John McArthur (born 27 August 1835 in Alva, Clackmannanshire, Scotland; died 25 October 1921) at the Fourth Presbyterian Church in Mobile, Alabama, in a ceremony performed by James M. McLean, according to her marriage license. The application for the license, dated 15 April 1861, did not require her birth date, her parents’ names or her age. Isabella Hardie died of cancer on 19 September 1885, also in Mobile. Her death certificate states that she was buried in the plot in the Magnolia Cemetery owned by John McArthur. Isabella’s death certificate gives her age as 54. John McArthur was the son of Agnes Spence McArthur and Andrew McArthur.
John McArthur’s mother, Agnes Spence, was the sister of William Spence who married Helen Hardie and brought Isabella Hardie to the United States. Agnes Spence and Andrew McArthur, themselves, came to the United States from Ireland in 1852 and landed at New Orleans on 6 January 1853. Among their six children was Isabella’s future husband John who was eighteen years old at the time. Three of Agnes and Andrew McArthur’s children died of yellow fever in Mobile. According to McArthur family tradition, Andrew McArthur had sent his brother-in-law, William Spence, a down payment for a farm in Talladega County, but on arriving in Talladega, Andrew was told the farm was not available. This created many hard feelings between Agnes McArthur’s family and William Spence. However, William Spence did make a bequest to Isabella on his death.
Children of Isabella Hardie and John McArthur:
1. Andrew Patterson McArthur was born 19 February 1862 in Mobile, Alabama. He was a medical doctor . He was married first on 17 July 1894 to Ella Killcrease (born 4 November 1867; died 6 August 1899; third child of John Killcrease and Caledonia McMillan). Children of Andrew Patterson McArthur and Ella Killcrease:
1.1 John McArthur, first child of Andrew McArthur and Ella Killcrease, was born 21 April 1895 in Stockton, Baldwin County, Alabama. He grew up in Rembert, Marengo County, Alabama, where his father practiced medicine. He attended the University of Alabama and served in the signal Corps during World War I. He was married on 23 June 1932 to Mamie Day (born 14 May 1893 in Salem, Amite County, Mississippi; died 26 May 1876 in Moss Point Mississippi; daughter of William Hockett Day and Polly Faulkner Butler) He died 23 September 1952 in Moss Point, Mississippi. The only child of John McArthur and Mamie Day:
1.1.1 Mary Day McArthur was born 20 May 1933 in Moss Point, Mississippi. She graduated from Moss Point High School and attended Belhaven College in Jackson, Mississippi, as well as Hufstetler Business College in Mobile, Alabama. She was married on 24 July 1953 to Frederick Harold Lander called “Jack” (born 2 March 1930 in Kreole, Mississippi; son of Percy Wilford Lander and Lela Mae Byrd) at Moss Point Prsbyterian Church in Moss Point, Mississippi. Children of Mary Day McArthur and Jack Lander:
1.1.1.1 John Frederick Lander, first child of Mary Day McArthur and Jack Lander, was born 15 April 1954 in Laurel, Mississippi. He served in the United States navy and retired in 1995.
1.1.1.2 David Malcolm Lander was born 18 April 1955 in Laurel, Mississippi. He was married first to Ersel Aline Smith (born 15 December 1958 in Hattiesburg, Mississippi). Child of David Malcolm Lander and Ersel Smith:
1.1.1.2.1 Amanda Lynne Lander was born 23 January 1979 in Pascagoula, Mississippi. Amanda graduated from Mississippi University for Women in 2001.
David Malcolm Lander (7.3.1.2.1.2) was married second to Audrey Jean Cibula (born 11 June 1961 in Ohio). Children of David Malcolm Lander and Audrey Jean Cibula:
1.1.1.2.2 Emily Allison Lander was born 22 May 1990 in Slidell, Louisiana.
1.1.1.2.3 Matthew David Lander was born 19 August 1992 in Slidell, Louisiana.
1.1.1.2.4 Lauren Elizabeth Lander was born 25 May 1994 in St. Tammany Parish, Louisiana.
1.1.1.2.5 Anna Catherine Lander was born 25 September 1997 in Slidell, Louisiana.
1.1.1.3 Rebecca Susan Lander, third child of Mary Day McArthur and Jack Lander, was born 30 December 1958 in Houston, Mississippi. She was married first to Eugene David Krebs (born 31 January 1977 in Pascagoula, Mississippi). Children of Rebecca Lander and Eugene Krebs:
1.1.1.3.1 Jason Michael Krebs was born 31 January 1977 in Pascagoula, Mississippi.
1.1.1.3.2 Margaret Anne Krebs was born 18 May 1980 in Pascagoula, Mississippi.
Rebecca Susan Lander (7.3.1.2.1.3) was married second to Gerald Edward Gorski (born 17 April 1954 in Ohio) Gerald Gorski has a daughter from an earlier marriage named Jodi Gorski (born June 1979 in Pascagoula, Mississippi).
1.1.1.4 Lisa Ellen Lander, fourth child of Mary Day McArthur and Jack Lander, was born 30 December 1958 in Pascagoula, Mississippi. She was married to Richard Stevens Pittman called “Steve” (born 28 December 1956 in Gulf Port, Mississippi). Children of Lisa Lander and Steve Pittman:
1.1.1.4.1 Rebecca Elizabeth Pittman was born 12 January 1993 in Pascagoula, Mississippi.
1.1.1.4.2 Robert Frederick Pittman was born 6 December 1997 in Pascagoula, Mississippi.
1.2 Andrew Patterson McArthur called “Paddy”, the second child of Andrew McArthur and Ella Killcrease, was born 17 May 1897 and died 5 August 1899.
1.3 Marion McArthur, a son, was born to Andrew McArthur and Ella Killcrease on 6 August 1899 in Marengo County, Alabama, and died the same day. Ella died in giving birth.
Andrew Patterson McArthur (7.3.1) was married second on 24 April 1901 to Mary Kilcrease (born 23 October 1873; died 10 December 1956 in Charleston, South Carolina; sister of Ella Kilcrease). Andrew Patterson McArthur (7.3.1) died 5 December 1945 in Moss Point, Mississippi. Dr. McArthur moved several times until his last move to Moss Point, Mississippi, in 1914. Children of Andrew Patterson McArthur and Mary Kilcrease:
1.4 Hardie McMillan McArthur was born 3 December 1902 and died during surgery at the Mobile Infirmary in Mobile, Alabama, on 5 September 1918 while he was still a student in High School.
1.5 Ella McArthur was born 2 October 1904. She was married to William McIntosh, Jr. of Summerville, South Carolina.
2. John Hardie McArthur, second child of Isabella Hardie and John McArthur, was born April 1864 in Mobile, Alabama, and died 19 September 1865 in Mobile, Alabama.
3. Helen Isabella McArthur (called “Nell”), third child of Isabella Hardie and John McArthur, was born 17 August 1866 in Mobile, Alabama. She was married on 22 October 1888 to Frank Coffin (born December 1833; died December 1926; a native of Connecticut and a railroad engineer). She died 11 December 1938 in Mobile, Alabama. Children of Nell McArthur and Frank Coffin:
3.1 Frank Spence Coffin
3.2 Andrew Adair Coffin
4. James David McArthur, fourth child of Isabella Hardie and John McArthur was born 9 March 1869 in Mobile, Alabama, and died 16 May 1870.